Emiri:
In this week’s bible reading Jobs friends continue to accuse Job of sinning to God, which they say was the reason his blessings were taken from him. They question Job on what he could have done to have all of these bad things happen to him. In the way Zohar questioned Job he talks down on Job and is exasperated with what Job was saying and claiming he knew better and how Job deserved the punishment. Applying this to my life I should not be a friend like Zohar that who looks down on others but to encourage the people around me, like if my friends is going through a tough time by encouraging them under God.
むかい：
今回の聖書朗読では、「神様を怒らせた人は相手の不幸を笑う。のところ神様を求めている人はその人たちに笑われる。」ヨブ期 12章4-6
このところで、これは神様を求めている人はそのような環境には目を向けていないで、調子を合わせないと思う。ですので僕もこれからこのようだれかに笑われていようが、神様を求めていきます。
Timothy:
In Job chapter 9, in his despair, Job says that he wants a mediator between him and God; “someone to bring us together, someone to remove God’s rod from me, so that his terror would frighten me no more” (9:33, 34). As a “mere mortal,” he feels that there is no way for him to communicate with God and that his suffering will not end. However, it is mentioned a few times in the Bible that through Jesus, we can confidently and boldly enter God’s presence (Eph 3:12, Heb 10:19). Job’s despair comes from feeling distant/powerless before God, but through Jesus’ sacrifice, that gap is bridged and we can enter his presence without fear and sin. Applying this to my life, whenever I feel overwhelmed or depressed, I should remember that God is with me and I can ask God for help, through Jesus.
Tomas:
This bible reading, I learned about how Job was judged and looked down upon by Zophar. Applying this to my life, I am just like the people around me, like my friends and family and I should treat them with respect. For example, when my parents ask me how my day was or when I need something or need help, I should ask them since that for me is a sign of respect to them rather than just saying nothing to them.
Jun’s comment re: Emiri:
I should not be a friend like Zohar that who looks down on others but to encourage the people around me, like if my friends is going through a tough time by encouraging them under God.
「具体的に」っていう意味が良くわからないのかな？こういうことを適用で書くとき、漠然と書くのではなく、友達がこう言ったとき、、あるいは、今週こういうことがあって、、というふうに書かないと意味ないよ。それに対して、自分はどういう言葉を言ったのか、どういう行動をしたのか、、上の場合、どういう「励ましの言葉」をえみりは「神様にあって」話せるのですか？
あと、私が色々返事で書いてることに対して、もっと答えてくると、成長できるよ。９９％みんなスルーだね。😅
Jun’s comment re: Mukai:
今回の聖書朗読では、「神様を怒らせた人は相手の不幸を笑う。のところ神様を求めている人はその人たちに笑われる。」ヨブ期 12章4-6
どこにこんなこと書いてあるかな？むかいはまず、ちゃんと聖書を読むところから始めてください。あと文脈もちゃんと頭に置きながら読むこと。毎日一章づつ読んでる（それ以上１日に読もうとすると、無理だよ）。
Jun’s comment re: Timothy:
The fact that these verses stood out to you (9:33, 34) shows that you have a good sense of what God wants to say through the book of Job. Also, good for finding the exact verses that talk about how we can now boldly enter God’s presence.
Applying this to my life, whenever I feel overwhelmed or depressed, I should remember that God is with me and I can ask God for help, through Jesus.
Yes, and start by living with him every day (not just when you need help or feel overwhelmed). Come to know God as a living being, just as you come to know and love other people or pets. Eat with him, study with him, have fun with him, speak with him. Praise him from your heart. This was what God wanted from Job. He wanted a personal relationship with Job, and not to be treated as some sort of vending machine for blessings.
Jun’s comment re: Tomas:
For example, when my parents ask me how my day was or when I need something or need help, I should ask them since that for me is a sign of respect to them rather than just saying nothing to them.
Did this happen last week? 😄 Learning to communicate and express yourself to others is important, and I feel in this day and age, when so much of our time is spent dealing with machines (computers, cell phones, etc.), that skill is lost. You are lucky to have parents that care about you and ask how your day was, so take advantage of that and you might be surprised how talking about what happened helps cement what you learned that day and helps deal with any problems you may have encountered. Don’t bottle things up inside. And also ask your parents how their day was. 😉
Emiri re: Jun:
メールありがとうございます。
For my application, last week we had a test for history class and my friend didn’t do very well on it. She was really down about her grade and didn’t talk much in the classes afterwards either. I tried to encourage her by telling her that it was just one test and there were other things to makeup for that test but it didn’t really help her since I tried to encourage her with my own stregth, I didn’t look down on her but I wasn’t able to help her either, I felt that in order to be able to help people I need to be living with God all the time, at school and home.
Jun re: Emiri:
I didn’t look down on her but I wasn’t able to help her either, I felt that in order to be able to help people I need to be living with God all the time, at school and home.
肝心なところが具体性ないの、わかる？日々生活の中で神様と共に生きる必要があると、書いてあるけど、実際にじゃあ、どうやってこれをやるのか（やってるのか）書いてないです。「聖書をもっと読む」とか「もっと祈る」という答えが帰ってきそうだけど、これ、答えじゃないです😄（何回もシェアの時、教えてるよね？）。
そもそも適用が少しズレてるね。この場合、この子を励ます意味ありますか？
このことより、えみりに必要なことは、前の週に書いたことです。ヨシュア１：９を自分の中にキープして、学校や家でも神様が共にいることを忘れない、と書いてたけど（証でも同じこと言ってたし、土曜日のシェアでも、同じこと言ってたね）、、これ、働いてないみたいだね？周りの人の言葉や行動（意地悪されてるみたいな、、実際的なことあまり言わないから、細かいこと知らないけど）結構長い間、えみりはこれを引きずってますね？ヨシュアは、この言葉を神様からもらって、本当に勇敢で強くいられたけど、なぜエミリはなかなかできていないのか？みことばの上に立つということは、実際、どうやってやるのか？親たちも、このへん、もっとエミリの話を聞いてあげたりして、生活の中で教えてあげてください。
Masami’s comment:
えみのシェアの返事を純がわざわざ不得意な日本語で書いてる意味は、親にも読んでほしいからと思います。
親たちが子供や他の子供らにサジェスチョンあったらその辺じは（ズレてると困るから）純だけにお願いします。
子供はその週のみ言葉が今ひとつ理解できなかったり、少し要点からズレてたり、理解できなくて普通です。
理由は子供だからだから教え、コーチがいるのだからね。
ジュンのコメントは裁いているのではなく、成長のため、君たちがもっとイエス様の心を受け取るためのものだから否定的に取らないように！
いいこと、うまいこと、適当なこと、持ち上げ書いてもこのグループの趣旨からは外れますから、そこを子供もわかってお互いにシェアしよう。
神様との個人的な交わりは大人も子供も関係なくあります。
清さがあれば神を見る事もできる、神様との個人的な交わりがある子供にだけです。
力を受けるのも神様との個人的な関係がある子にです。
十字架の言葉は信じるものにしか働きません。
学校や世の中で受けることのできない物、人間として一番大事なものは、神の言葉（神の心）です。それをどこまで神様との交わりの中で受け取っていくかで天国への道が変わります。
新幹線の特等席で座って行くような道もあれば、大雨の中、泥水の中を裸足で歩くような道（人生）もあります。
神の言葉、世の言葉どちらかを選んで君たちは毎秒生きているのです。
人生は主にあって喜びであり美しい物です。
自分の道に荊棘を（いばら）生やさず、毒麦を育てないように！
このシェアも自分なりに聖霊様の導きで楽しみながらやって行くといいですよ、冬のキャンプでまた一つの心で顔と顔を合わせて神様を体験しよう。