Emiri:
In this week’s Bible reading I learned from Elihu that if you know something is amiss it’s important to speak up no matter who it was to. Elihu spoke up against people older than him which wasn’t common at that time since older people have more wisdom, but he spoke up when he felt something wasn’t right. This week after my tennis match I was watching my teammates play their matches. While I was watching I saw that a ball land right on the line which is considered in in tennis, the girl saw it was a line ball but called it out and was able to win the game. I learned that it is important to speak up to no matter the person when I know somethings are not right.
Jun re Emiri:
I saw that a ball land right on the line which is considered in in tennis, the girl saw it was a line ball but called it out and was able to win the game. I learned that it is important to speak up to no matter the person when I know somethings are not right.
So did you speak up?話は最後まで書いてください。😅
むかい:
今回の聖書朗読では、知恵と悟りの価値とそれらが何なんか知りました。ヨブ記の28章に書いてある、どんな金のものでもサファイアにも銀にも変わることができないようなとても価値のあるものだということがわかりました。知恵と悟りはこれも聖書に書いているあるに、知恵は主を恐れて主にしたがって行くことであり、悟りは周りの環境や罪の誘惑などの闇から遠ざかり神様の臨在に入っていくことだと書いてあるため、私は神様から出るとても高価で値段のつけようがないくらいの知恵と悟りを得て行きながら神様の臨在に入り自分の霊と共に信仰を深めていきたいと思います。
Jun re むかい:
ここのどこに具体性がありますか？毎週書いてるよね。どうして、やろうとしないのですか？言い方きついかもしれないけど、むかいのような感想は、言葉を並べてるだけです。自分でも書いてる意味わかってないはずです。具体的に書こうとするときに、わかっていないところに気がついたり、自分のよくないところや間違った考え・価値観を発見して、そこを直していくための、聖書通読です。
むかいが言ってる言葉は２８：２８だね？「主を恐れること、これが知恵である。悪から離れることは悟りである。」むかいは、日々の生活で、どうやって神を恐れて生きてますか？悪から離れる、というのは、どうやってやるのですか？（罪を犯さない、だけが、悪から離れるという意味じゃないね？もちろん、それも含んでるけど。）
来週の感想は、この答えを具体的にに書くところから始めてください。具体的な答えは、むかいにしか書けない言葉のはずです（むかいの人生で起きてることだから）。宗教的な言葉を並べないように！
Yoshiya:
今回の聖書通読にて、29章のヨブが健やかな時代では、人々がヨブの正しい行いを賞賛してヨブは尊敬されていた。しかし、30章ではヨブが病んでから、嘲られ罵られるようになった。この世の人の態度が山の天気のように変化する事を意味している。エルサレムでのイエス様と同じで興味深かった。そんな地上の人からの評価なんて限りなくゼロに近いので、気に留める必要などない。
Jun re Yoshiya:
Good, Yoshiya.
そんな地上の人からの評価なんて限りなくゼロに近いので、気に留める必要などない。
ヨブはおそらく災いが起きる前から、友達がそんなもんなんだ、と知ってたはずです。だから、揺るがなかった。気に留めない、を超えて、人間の軽さ・悪どさを知っていながらも、その人たちが困ったときは、哀れみを持って、助けることが出来たら、本当に神の器だね。ヨブはそれができた。（最後、ヨブは彼らが神様から罰を受けないようにと、祈ります。モーセと同じです。）
Timothy:
In Job 31, Job lists sins he did not commit (lust, falsehood, injustice) because he knows God sees everything and will judge him. Though once blessed in his relationships with God and others, Job lost it all, and his suffering includes feeling spiritually disconnected. In chapter 28, he asks, “Where does wisdom come from?” and answers his own question, concluding that “the fear of the Lord is wisdom” (v.28). Applying this, I need to be more consistent in Bible reading, as I tend to prioritize school and my personal free time. For wisdom and a closer relationship with God, I need to read more in depth.
Jun re Timothy:
In Job 31, Job lists sins he did not commit (lust, falsehood, injustice) because he knows God sees everything and will judge him.
Yes, but don’t forget that Job did more than “not sin.” In various places, you read how he helped the fatherless and widows (meaning he used his own wealth and resources to help them), how he used his influence and high social standing to uphold justice for those who could not do so for themselves, as well as probably many things not mentioned. Otherwise, would God say “there is no one on earth like him?”
In chapter 28, he asks, “Where does wisdom come from?” and answers his own question, concluding that “the fear of the Lord is wisdom” (v.28).
Chapter 28 is actually inserted by the author, and not Job’s own words. It is interesting that the exact description of Job used in 1:1, 1:8 and 2:3 (the latter two given by God himself) is the very definition of wisdom: “he (Job) feared God and shunned evil.” In other words, Job already had wisdom even before his trials. So don’t interpret chapter 28 as “oh, so Job had to go through hardship in order to gain wisdom.”
Applying this, I need to be more consistent in Bible reading, as I tend to prioritize school and my personal free time. For wisdom and a closer relationship with God, I need to read more in depth.
Good, but you’ve already mentioned this several times, so as the Bible says (Matt 5:37), “simply let your ‘yes’ be ‘yes.’”😆 (Just follow through.) Also, I think you’re (not just Timothy, but all of you) still approaching the Bible as something to be studied with your brain, just as you would study any subject in school. Instead, approach it as you would a friend. Get to know God by not just reading the word, but living with him every day. As you go through your day, do you sense his guidance in your heart? Are you reminded of some verse you read recently as you go through your day? Do you greet him as you open your eyes in the morning, and speak to him about your day as you get ready to fall asleep? God is a living being. The only way to know him better, is to live with him.
Tomas:
In Job 32, Elihu mentions that even though he didn’t agree with what the other three spoke about to Job, he kept silent and was patient for them as well as listened to what they said. Applying this to my life, in my home, I sometimes get annoyed by what others do around me even by the smallest things they do and I usually do not think during these situations since I am just mad. However, instead of doing this, I can just tell them what happened or what I found what was wrong instead of making a big deal out of it since that will just lead to more problems in my family.
Jun re Tomas:
Ok, Tomas. Interesting application😄!
(Make sure you also read what I wrote to others as well.)
